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Green button?
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Brian Gaff
2023-09-15 08:42:55 UTC
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What is this increasing use of the press the green button for xxxxx, then. I
get it blurted out during some commercials and programs on my Samsung voice,
and wondered what it was, since selecting green seems to do nothing. I'm
guessing its some form of text on screen that the set is unable to read.
Brian
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Mark Carver
2023-09-15 09:28:57 UTC
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Post by Brian Gaff
What is this increasing use of the press the green button for xxxxx, then. I
get it blurted out during some commercials and programs on my Samsung voice,
and wondered what it was, since selecting green seems to do nothing. I'm
guessing its some form of text on screen that the set is unable to read.
On BBC Channels on Freeview a prompt comes up (for a few seconds)
inviting you to 'Press Green' to start watching the programme from the
start. Obviously it fires up iplayer automatically, and starts playing
the programme.
J. P. Gilliver
2023-09-15 12:45:42 UTC
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Post by Mark Carver
Post by Brian Gaff
What is this increasing use of the press the green button for xxxxx, then. I
get it blurted out during some commercials and programs on my Samsung voice,
and wondered what it was, since selecting green seems to do nothing. I'm
guessing its some form of text on screen that the set is unable to read.
On BBC Channels on Freeview a prompt comes up (for a few seconds)
inviting you to 'Press Green' to start watching the programme from the
start. Obviously it fires up iplayer automatically, and starts playing
the programme.
For those with a suitable set, an internet connection, and the two
connected together. I've given up being fed up at "press red to view on
iplayer", or rather commenting on it - it still irritates me no end.
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Andy Burns
2023-09-15 13:03:11 UTC
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Post by J. P. Gilliver
I've given up being fed up at "press red to view on
iplayer", or rather commenting on it - it still irritates me no end.
Red button is also the (only?) way to be allowed into 4K/UHD versions of
programmes ...
J. P. Gilliver
2023-09-15 13:26:08 UTC
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Post by Andy Burns
I've given up being fed up at "press red to view on iplayer", or
rather commenting on it - it still irritates me no end.
Red button is also the (only?) way to be allowed into 4K/UHD versions
of programmes ...
Presumably red button AND an internet-connected TV - certainly on
FreeView, I don't think any 4K/UHD is broadcast. But at least I've not
heard voice telling me to press red for 4K/UHD, whereas they're
_constantly_ saying it for iplayer.
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Stephen Wolstenholme
2023-09-15 14:52:20 UTC
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On Fri, 15 Sep 2023 14:26:08 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver"
Post by J. P. Gilliver
Post by Andy Burns
I've given up being fed up at "press red to view on iplayer", or
rather commenting on it - it still irritates me no end.
Red button is also the (only?) way to be allowed into 4K/UHD versions
of programmes ...
Presumably red button AND an internet-connected TV - certainly on
FreeView, I don't think any 4K/UHD is broadcast. But at least I've not
heard voice telling me to press red for 4K/UHD, whereas they're
_constantly_ saying it for iplayer.
I have tried the red button. It produces a menu but the iplayer does
not work. I assume an internet "smart" TV is needed. It works OK on a
computer connection but I don't to watch TV on my computer.
Roderick Stewart
2023-09-16 08:54:22 UTC
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On Fri, 15 Sep 2023 15:52:20 +0100, Stephen Wolstenholme
Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Fri, 15 Sep 2023 14:26:08 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver"
Post by J. P. Gilliver
Post by Andy Burns
I've given up being fed up at "press red to view on iplayer", or
rather commenting on it - it still irritates me no end.
Red button is also the (only?) way to be allowed into 4K/UHD versions
of programmes ...
Presumably red button AND an internet-connected TV - certainly on
FreeView, I don't think any 4K/UHD is broadcast. But at least I've not
heard voice telling me to press red for 4K/UHD, whereas they're
_constantly_ saying it for iplayer.
I have tried the red button. It produces a menu but the iplayer does
not work. I assume an internet "smart" TV is needed. It works OK on a
computer connection but I don't to watch TV on my computer.
Plug a streaming device into your TV and you'll be able to watch
broadcast TV and a million other things in whatever resolution is
available without any extra coloured buttons at all.

Rod.
Brian Gaff
2023-09-16 09:15:21 UTC
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It won't read thee menu on my Samsung which is a 2020 model and has recently
updated its firmware. I understand you have to update some apps, but since
the red button app is standard it cannot read it so to use it you first need
to get sighted help to create an account on Samsungs tv app store, then
download the latest apps which of course may or not work any better than the
one you have.
These manufacturers, and app writers need to get their heads together and
decide on a standard for the accessibility of said add ons and stick to it,
after all on the web you don't get this, if a screenreader can read a web
site it can read the online system to play the content. Then we hit the
different ways in which you select audio description on each site, and some
don't bother at all.
The whole thing is a bit of a mess.
Brian
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Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Fri, 15 Sep 2023 14:26:08 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver"
Post by J. P. Gilliver
Post by Andy Burns
I've given up being fed up at "press red to view on iplayer", or
rather commenting on it - it still irritates me no end.
Red button is also the (only?) way to be allowed into 4K/UHD versions
of programmes ...
Presumably red button AND an internet-connected TV - certainly on
FreeView, I don't think any 4K/UHD is broadcast. But at least I've not
heard voice telling me to press red for 4K/UHD, whereas they're
_constantly_ saying it for iplayer.
I have tried the red button. It produces a menu but the iplayer does
not work. I assume an internet "smart" TV is needed. It works OK on a
computer connection but I don't to watch TV on my computer.
J. P. Gilliver
2023-09-16 18:54:51 UTC
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2023 15:52:20, Stephen Wolstenholme <***@outlook.com>
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Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
I have tried the red button. It produces a menu but the iplayer does
not work. I assume an internet "smart" TV is needed. It works OK on a
computer connection but I don't to watch TV on my computer.
Smart, and actually connected - i. e. you need a capable TV, and an
internet connection, and to have connected your TV to your connection.
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Brian Gaff
2023-09-16 09:23:19 UTC
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Not for me it won't do anything. I suspect the app it is using is not
working with samsungs screen voicing feature. It could be that I'd need to
update the app, but to do that needs sight and a Samsung account and
password which seems to talk not very well on my paired Bluetooth keyboard.
I do wish companies could get over this problem of not being able to use the
smart features in full with audio feedback. It seems to be the same no
matter what set you have, so you might have to buy a semi intelligent one
and use an Amazon firestick or cube with it as they do allow updates, but
that is yet another remote control.The Samsung already has two to start
with!

Brian
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Post by J. P. Gilliver
Post by Andy Burns
I've given up being fed up at "press red to view on iplayer", or rather
commenting on it - it still irritates me no end.
Red button is also the (only?) way to be allowed into 4K/UHD versions of
programmes ...
Presumably red button AND an internet-connected TV - certainly on
FreeView, I don't think any 4K/UHD is broadcast. But at least I've not
heard voice telling me to press red for 4K/UHD, whereas they're
_constantly_ saying it for iplayer.
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Mark Carver
2023-09-15 15:20:18 UTC
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Post by J. P. Gilliver
Post by Mark Carver
Post by Brian Gaff
What is this increasing use of the press the green button for xxxxx, then. I
get it blurted out during some commercials and programs on my Samsung voice,
and wondered what it was, since selecting green seems to do nothing. I'm
guessing its some form of text on screen that the set is unable to read.
On BBC Channels on Freeview a prompt comes up (for a few seconds)
inviting you to 'Press Green' to start watching the programme from
the start. Obviously it fires up iplayer automatically, and starts
playing the programme.
For those with a suitable set, an internet connection, and the two
connected together.
Well, it's not going to appear if you are not equipped with the former
is it !?
Brian Gaff
2023-09-16 09:20:21 UTC
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OK so does any broadcaster use the yellow and blue buttons? Any suggestions
for what they could be used for?I could make some silly ones. Blue for porn
and yellow voting on the currently watched program, ie Yellow for custard
tart thrown.
Brian
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Post by J. P. Gilliver
Post by Mark Carver
Post by Brian Gaff
What is this increasing use of the press the green button for xxxxx, then. I
get it blurted out during some commercials and programs on my Samsung voice,
and wondered what it was, since selecting green seems to do nothing. I'm
guessing its some form of text on screen that the set is unable to read.
On BBC Channels on Freeview a prompt comes up (for a few seconds)
inviting you to 'Press Green' to start watching the programme from the
start. Obviously it fires up iplayer automatically, and starts playing
the programme.
For those with a suitable set, an internet connection, and the two
connected together.
Well, it's not going to appear if you are not equipped with the former is
it !?
Andy Burns
2023-09-16 11:13:19 UTC
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Post by Brian Gaff
does any broadcaster use the yellow and blue buttons?
At one point, the blue button was used from BBC FOUR to display a test card.
Brian Gaff
2023-09-16 09:06:30 UTC
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Yes you can view the red button content on channel 601 or somesuch in many
cases. Why is it so hard for the sets to be able to read digital text pages,
when the old teletext system had many voice adaptations very very early on.
My guess is that its being mostly displayed as pictures of text, rather than
true ascii characters.
Brian
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Post by J. P. Gilliver
Post by Brian Gaff
What is this increasing use of the press the green button for xxxxx, then. I
get it blurted out during some commercials and programs on my Samsung voice,
and wondered what it was, since selecting green seems to do nothing. I'm
guessing its some form of text on screen that the set is unable to read.
On BBC Channels on Freeview a prompt comes up (for a few seconds) inviting
you to 'Press Green' to start watching the programme from the start.
Obviously it fires up iplayer automatically, and starts playing the
programme.
For those with a suitable set, an internet connection, and the two
connected together. I've given up being fed up at "press red to view on
iplayer", or rather commenting on it - it still irritates me no end.
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