Change for the sake of it?

[John Williamson]

Pick is moving to Freeview channel 11 from channel 36 and being renamed
Sky Mix. Fair enough, that's their choice.

At the same time, the current occupier of Freeview channel 11 is
retaining its name of Sky Arts and moving to channel 36.

It seems that both will be carrying the same programmes as they did
before the change. Is there some logical or technical reason why they
can't just rename channel 36 as Sky Mix and carry on using it?

[Paul Ratcliffe]

Post by John Williamson
Pick is moving to Freeview channel 11 from channel 36 and being renamed
Sky Mix. Fair enough, that's their choice.
At the same time, the current occupier of Freeview channel 11 is
retaining its name of Sky Arts and moving to channel 36.
It seems that both will be carrying the same programmes as they did
before the change. Is there some logical or technical reason why they
can't just rename channel 36 as Sky Mix and carry on using it?

Probably because the LCNs would be the wrong way round to how they want them.
What I expect will happen is they'll swap the LCNs round whilst
retaining the same service IDs, and then rename Pick to Sky Mix.

[Mark Carver]

Post by Paul Ratcliffe

Post by John Williamson
Pick is moving to Freeview channel 11 from channel 36 and being renamed
Sky Mix. Fair enough, that's their choice.
At the same time, the current occupier of Freeview channel 11 is
retaining its name of Sky Arts and moving to channel 36.
It seems that both will be carrying the same programmes as they did
before the change. Is there some logical or technical reason why they
can't just rename channel 36 as Sky Mix and carry on using it?

Probably because the LCNs would be the wrong way round to how they want them.
What I expect will happen is they'll swap the LCNs round whilst
retaining the same service IDs, and then rename Pick to Sky Mix.

There's also I think a rule (imposed by Freeview) that a channel can't
move itself 'up' (up meaning a lower LCN) the EPG, it can only move down
(As indeed Sky Arts are doing be going from 11 to 36)

[John Williamson]

Post by Mark Carver
There's also I think a rule (imposed by Freeview) that a channel can't
move itself 'up' (up meaning a lower LCN) the EPG, it can only move down
(As indeed Sky Arts are doing be going from 11 to 36)

That could explain it.

[Brian Gaff]

Who knows, maybe its some ploy to not have to abide by the number of hours
of AD content.
Its happened with a number of channels and I think new ones get a grace
period to comply, then change their name again. To me the program creators
should be factoring in AD when they budgetfor a show, as otherwise you get
the current issues where some screenings on some channels have AD and some
do not. So maybe Sky have a backlog of non AD stuff they want to legally put
out.
I think it stinks that the stations with nothing but distribution on main
stations are able to opt out of AD at all. A fair number of the films shown
on the film channels had AD, but its not broadcast, Did I mention Horror
Extra, well that is just one of them.
Brian
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Post by John Williamson
Pick is moving to Freeview channel 11 from channel 36 and being renamed
Sky Mix. Fair enough, that's their choice.
At the same time, the current occupier of Freeview channel 11 is retaining
its name of Sky Arts and moving to channel 36.
It seems that both will be carrying the same programmes as they did before
the change. Is there some logical or technical reason why they can't just
rename channel 36 as Sky Mix and carry on using it?
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[J. P. Gilliver]

Post by Brian Gaff
Who knows, maybe its some ploy to not have to abide by the number of hours
of AD content.
Its happened with a number of channels and I think new ones get a grace
period to comply, then change their name again. To me the program creators
should be factoring in AD when they budgetfor a show, as otherwise you get
the current issues where some screenings on some channels have AD and some
do not. So maybe Sky have a backlog of non AD stuff they want to legally put
out.
I think it stinks that the stations with nothing but distribution on main
stations are able to opt out of AD at all. A fair number of the films shown
on the film channels had AD, but its not broadcast, Did I mention Horror
Extra, well that is just one of them.
Brian

I'm still wondering if they'll ever apply the AD requirement to the
adult channels! (What a boring job _that_ would be!)

[Max Demian]

Post by John Williamson
Pick is moving to Freeview channel 11 from channel 36 and being renamed
Sky Mix. Fair enough, that's their choice.
At the same time, the current occupier of Freeview channel 11 is
retaining its name of Sky Arts and moving to channel 36.
It seems that both will be carrying the same programmes as they did
before the change. Is there some logical or technical reason why they
can't just rename channel 36 as Sky Mix and carry on using it?

Presumably we won't have to retune provided we don't mind the stations
being in the wrong places.