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SCART connect comms
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r***@gmail.com
2005-02-04 14:17:52 UTC
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Does anyone know what the Comms pins on a SCART connector do? Wikipedia
suggests that they might be "D2B" but I can find nothing on what that
is? Does anything use it? If so what for?

CHeers,

Richard.
dylan
2005-02-04 16:08:25 UTC
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Post by r***@gmail.com
Does anyone know what the Comms pins on a SCART connector do? Wikipedia
suggests that they might be "D2B" but I can find nothing on what that
is? Does anything use it? If so what for?
CHeers,
Richard.
which pins are they ?

SCART Video Connections
21 way SCART plug

Pin 1 Audio Right (out)
Pin 2 Audio Right (in)
Pin 3 Audio Left (out)
Pin 4 Audio Return (Analog Ground)
Pin 5 Blue Return (Analog Ground)
Pin 6 Audio Left (in)
Pin 7 Blue
Pin 8 Status / 16:9 Widescreen
Pin 9 Green Return (Analog Ground)
Pin 10 N/C
Pin 11 Green
Pin 12 N/C
Pin 13 Red Return (Analog Ground)
Pin 14 Fast Blanking Return
Pin 15 Red / Chrominance
Pin 16 Fast Blanking RGB
Pin 17 Composite Video (out) Return
Pin 18 Composite Video (in) Return
Pin 19 Composite Video (out)
Pin 20 Composite Video / Luminance (in)
Pin 21 Common Return
dylan
2005-02-04 16:51:15 UTC
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Post by dylan
SCART Video Connections
21 way SCART plug
Pin 1 Audio Right (out)
...
Post by dylan
Pin 21 Common Return
after some investigation
http://www.lpilsley.co.uk/scart.htm and others show pins 10,12 as comms data
pins 1 and 2 and looking at
http://www.netcentral.co.uk/satcure/scarts.htm seems to imply they can be
used for propriatory systems.
I have a Philips TV and VCR using 'Easy-link' which can tune them both to
the same channels etc which uses pin 10.
Paul Martin
2005-02-04 17:22:30 UTC
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Post by r***@gmail.com
Does anyone know what the Comms pins on a SCART connector do? Wikipedia
suggests that they might be "D2B" but I can find nothing on what that
is? Does anything use it? If so what for?
It'll be a variant of the Philips I2C protocol, I think.
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Stephen Neal
2005-02-06 15:11:04 UTC
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Post by r***@gmail.com
Does anyone know what the Comms pins on a SCART connector do? Wikipedia
suggests that they might be "D2B" but I can find nothing on what that
is? Does anything use it? If so what for?
There have been loads of proprietary data standards using those pins. I'm
pretty certain our mid-80s "Audivision" Philips Monitor + Separate Tuner
combination (bit like the Profeel range) had an IR Receiver that could be
mounted either in the monitor or the tuner unit, and if mounted in the
monitor it squirted remote control data down the SCART in, I think, RC5
format.

A later, Matchline, Tuner+Amp module didn't have IR detection built in
ISTR - and required it to come down the SCART or be fed in via an RC5 phono
input. A(Annoying, as I had the tuner+amp but not a Philips monitor!)

Whether there was every a formal standard for the data carried by those pins
on SCART - or whether it was just a bit of prescient forward-planning to
allow differing data applications, I don't know.

AIUI they are used for the semi-intelligent TV->VCR links - where you can
record on a VCR the programme you are currently watching via the TV tuner,
without having to specifically set the channel on the VCR for example, or
where you connect a VCR to a TV, and the TV sends the tuning information it
is using to the VCR to synchronise channel numbers etc.

I think I2C, RC5 etc are all carried via this connection on varying bits of
kit. Not sure if Sony have used it to carry Control S - but I believe some
have used it to carry digital SPDIF audio.

Steve
Phil
2005-02-06 16:36:22 UTC
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Post by Stephen Neal
There have been loads of proprietary data standards using those pins.
I'm pretty certain our mid-80s "Audivision" Philips Monitor + Separate
Tuner combination (bit like the Profeel range) had an IR Receiver that
could be mounted either in the monitor or the tuner unit,
Phil: Yes it could, and we remounted ours there too.
(Also adapted the RGB switch on the back of the tuner box to be
remotely switched by 5V/12V* from a (modified) BBC Model B RGB output, so
that we could use it as a 'large screen' computer monitor.

(*If it was originally 5V, we changed it to the 12V scart voltage on one
BBC B, combined with and blanking and fast blanking SCART pins via
appropriate resitors for the control voltages and video (also 75ohm term.)
Post by Stephen Neal
and if
mounted in the monitor it squirted remote control data down the SCART
in, I think, RC5 format.
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n***@rtrussell.co.uk
2005-02-07 13:31:21 UTC
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Stephen Neal <***@nospam.as-directed.com> wrote:
: Whether there was every a formal standard for the data carried by those pins
: on SCART - or whether it was just a bit of prescient forward-planning to
: allow differing data applications, I don't know.

BS 6552:1984 (EN 50049) "Domestic and similar electronic
equipment. Interconnection requirements: peritelevision
connector" states the following in respect of pins 10, 12
and 14:

Pin 12: Intercommunication data line no. 1.
No connection permitted (future use under consideration).

Pin 10: Intercommunication data line no. 2.
No connection permitted (future use under consideration).

Pin 14: Intercommunication data lines common return.
No connection permitted (future use under consideration).

Is there a later version of the standard ?

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Dave Plowman (News)
2005-02-07 14:03:30 UTC
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Pin 14: Intercommunication data lines common return.
No connection permitted (future use under consideration).
Is there a later version of the standard ?
Must be old. Pin 14 is RGB status.
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Andy Wade
2005-02-07 15:19:01 UTC
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Post by Dave Plowman (News)
Must be old. Pin 14 is RGB status.
The current version is BS EN 50049-1:1998 / BS 6552:1998.
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