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BBC ignoring broadcast TV?
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MB
2023-05-10 09:18:44 UTC
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The BBC are heavily promoting their new series 'Ten Pound Poms' but I am
sure I have only heard them saying that it can be watched on iPlayer.

It is of course also on BBC 1 at the same time.

Is there a policy now to promote only iPlayer?
J. P. Gilliver
2023-05-10 11:32:56 UTC
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Post by MB
The BBC are heavily promoting their new series 'Ten Pound Poms' but I
am sure I have only heard them saying that it can be watched on iPlayer.
It is of course also on BBC 1 at the same time.
Is there a policy now to promote only iPlayer?
It wouldn't surprise me. The plugging of iPlayer seems (IMO) to be out
of hand (and must be frightening to [some of] those not online, or at
least who don't have a _TV_ online.
[I said "some of" as _I_ don't have an online TV, but - as one might
expect from someone taking this 'group - I'm not _frightened_ by iPlayer
(I occasionally use it on my computer), just _irritated_ by the plugging
of it.]

The cessation of terrestrial (and possibly satellite) by the end of the
decade, or earlier, wouldn't surprise me (though would irritate me like
hell, unless they make broadband free [or at least a lot cheaper] for
all, and still a bit even if they did).
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)***@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Everybody's throwing dinner parties, cooking this, baking that... Food has
eaten television here. - Sam Neill (RT 2014/10/11-17)
Mark Carver
2023-05-10 11:45:55 UTC
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Post by J. P. Gilliver
Post by MB
The BBC are heavily promoting their new series 'Ten Pound Poms' but I
am sure I have only heard them saying that it can be watched on iPlayer.
It is of course also on BBC 1 at the same time.
Is there a policy now to promote only iPlayer?
It wouldn't surprise me. The plugging of iPlayer seems (IMO) to be out
of hand (and must be frightening to [some of] those not online, or at
least who don't have a _TV_ online.
[I said "some of" as _I_ don't have an online TV, but - as one might
expect from someone taking this 'group - I'm not _frightened_ by
iPlayer (I occasionally use it on my computer), just _irritated_ by
the plugging of it.]
The cessation of terrestrial (and possibly satellite) by the end of
the decade, or earlier, wouldn't surprise me (though would irritate me
like hell, unless they make broadband free [or at least a lot cheaper]
for all, and still a bit even if they did).
We have some of the cheapest broadband services in the world.

It's not surprising they are plugging iplayer so much, but's what's the
problem, we all know the programmes are still available via 'wireless'
(for now) ?
MB
2023-05-10 14:45:55 UTC
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Post by Mark Carver
It's not surprising they are plugging iplayer so much, but's what's the
problem, we all know the programmes are still available via 'wireless'
(for now) ?
They have been plugging it heavily as being on iPlayer that I was
beginning to wonder if it was not on broadcast TV and looked ip up.

I am sure there will be people who miss it because of thinking that.
J. P. Gilliver
2023-05-10 20:38:55 UTC
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Post by Mark Carver
Post by J. P. Gilliver
It wouldn't surprise me. The plugging of iPlayer seems (IMO) to be
out of hand (and must be frightening to [some of] those not online,
or at least who don't have a _TV_ online.
[I said "some of" as _I_ don't have an online TV, but - as one might
expect from someone taking this 'group - I'm not _frightened_ by
iPlayer (I occasionally use it on my computer), just _irritated_ by
the plugging of it.]
The cessation of terrestrial (and possibly satellite) by the end of
the decade, or earlier, wouldn't surprise me (though would irritate me
like hell, unless they make broadband free [or at least a lot cheaper]
for all, and still a bit even if they did).
We have some of the cheapest broadband services in the world.
It's still at least twentysomething pounds a month from most ISPs.
That's getting on for 300 a year. To expect people on the breadline to
find that extra, is no small matter. Most of us here (including me) have
no idea what finding almost an extra pound - OK, 70-80p - a day means.
Post by Mark Carver
It's not surprising they are plugging iplayer so much, but's what's the
problem, we all know the programmes are still available via 'wireless'
(for now) ?
Not TV ones.
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J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)***@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Look at those early black-and-white episodes of /Coronation Street/;
like Ibsen in an flowered pinny. - Iam McMillan, RT 2020/2/22-28
MB
2023-05-10 14:43:47 UTC
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[I said "some of" as_I_ don't have an online TV, but - as one might
expect from someone taking this 'group - I'm not_frightened_ by iPlayer
(I occasionally use it on my computer), just_irritated_ by the plugging
of it.]
Similar here, I can use iPlayer but only use when there is a need to
like something interestin only on BBC Wales and not on network TV.

No interest in the American streaming services.
Roger
2023-05-10 12:27:41 UTC
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Post by MB
The BBC are heavily promoting their new series 'Ten Pound Poms' but I am
sure I have only heard them saying that it can be watched on iPlayer.
The Radio 4 ads for the coronation coverage only mentioned
iplayer and sounds.
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Roger
John Williamson
2023-05-10 16:15:24 UTC
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Post by MB
The BBC are heavily promoting their new series 'Ten Pound Poms' but I am
sure I have only heard them saying that it can be watched on iPlayer.
It is of course also on BBC 1 at the same time.
Is there a policy now to promote only iPlayer?
From here,I get the impression that maybe they are trying to push us
all on line.

If they succeed, they will be able to get away with turning all those
horribly expensive transmitters off. They will also be able to know who
is listening or viewing at all times.
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Tciao for Now!

John.
Scott
2023-05-10 16:49:15 UTC
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On Wed, 10 May 2023 17:15:24 +0100, John Williamson
Post by John Williamson
Post by MB
The BBC are heavily promoting their new series 'Ten Pound Poms' but I am
sure I have only heard them saying that it can be watched on iPlayer.
It is of course also on BBC 1 at the same time.
Is there a policy now to promote only iPlayer?
From here,I get the impression that maybe they are trying to push us
all on line.
If they succeed, they will be able to get away with turning all those
horribly expensive transmitters off. They will also be able to know who
is listening or viewing at all times.
And presumably introduce a subscription to replace the licence fee.
John Williamson
2023-05-10 17:03:21 UTC
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Post by Scott
And presumably introduce a subscription to replace the licence fee.
They will certainly be able to check whether you have permission to
connect. No valid log on, no service.

They could call it whatever they wish, it would be easier to enforce
than the current system.
--
Tciao for Now!

John.
Andy Burns
2023-05-10 18:02:54 UTC
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Post by John Williamson
They will certainly be able to check whether you have permission to
connect. No valid log on, no service.
They're already at that point (does get_iplayer need to authenticate?)
John Williamson
2023-05-10 18:36:53 UTC
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Post by Andy Burns
Post by John Williamson
They will certainly be able to check whether you have permission to
connect. No valid log on, no service.
They're already at that point (does get_iplayer need to authenticate?)
Yes, and it checks your IP address shows you are in the UK.

I was referring to the difficulty in verifying that you have a licence
to receive broadcast programmes.
--
Tciao for Now!

John.
Scott
2023-05-10 20:24:00 UTC
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On Wed, 10 May 2023 19:36:53 +0100, John Williamson
Post by John Williamson
Post by Andy Burns
Post by John Williamson
They will certainly be able to check whether you have permission to
connect. No valid log on, no service.
They're already at that point (does get_iplayer need to authenticate?)
Yes, and it checks your IP address shows you are in the UK.
I was referring to the difficulty in verifying that you have a licence
to receive broadcast programmes.
What if you are a member of the armed forces serving overseas? Surely
they are allowed to watch BBC television?
Tweed
2023-05-11 06:02:57 UTC
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Post by Scott
On Wed, 10 May 2023 19:36:53 +0100, John Williamson
Post by John Williamson
Post by Andy Burns
Post by John Williamson
They will certainly be able to check whether you have permission to
connect. No valid log on, no service.
They're already at that point (does get_iplayer need to authenticate?)
Yes, and it checks your IP address shows you are in the UK.
I was referring to the difficulty in verifying that you have a licence
to receive broadcast programmes.
What if you are a member of the armed forces serving overseas? Surely
they are allowed to watch BBC television?
That’s a solved problem

https://www.bfbs.com/tv-player
J. P. Gilliver
2023-05-10 20:42:40 UTC
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2023 17:49:15, Scott <***@gefion.myzen.co.uk> writes
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Post by Scott
Post by John Williamson
From here,I get the impression that maybe they are trying to push us
all on line.
Indeed.
Post by Scott
Post by John Williamson
If they succeed, they will be able to get away with turning all those
horribly expensive transmitters off. They will also be able to know who
I wonder what the online provision actually costs in comparison.

(Thinking about it, there are some parallels with electric vehicle
provision. [Yes, and some huge differences too.])
Post by Scott
Post by John Williamson
is listening or viewing at all times.
And _what_ they're viewing/listening to.
Post by Scott
And presumably introduce a subscription to replace the licence fee.
I'm sure that's in some of their minds - certainly much easier when they
know the audience figures in much greater detail.
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Look at those early black-and-white episodes of /Coronation Street/;
like Ibsen in an flowered pinny. - Iam McMillan, RT 2020/2/22-28
Brian Gaff
2023-05-11 07:41:24 UTC
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Don't know but the lot run jointly who run stuff like Quest, really and W
and also ITV X are doing the same. Available to stream now on..., and its
often some time later it finds itself on the broadcast systems.
Brian
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Post by MB
The BBC are heavily promoting their new series 'Ten Pound Poms' but I am
sure I have only heard them saying that it can be watched on iPlayer.
It is of course also on BBC 1 at the same time.
Is there a policy now to promote only iPlayer?
John Williamson
2023-05-11 07:51:54 UTC
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Post by Brian Gaff
Don't know but the lot run jointly who run stuff like Quest, really and W
and also ITV X are doing the same. Available to stream now on..., and its
often some time later it finds itself on the broadcast systems.
Brian
Yes, I have noticed that. Spashy adverts to "Watch our new series
starting on Tuesday" with a note on screen that all episodes are now
available for streaming on line.
--
Tciao for Now!

John.
Max Demian
2023-05-11 11:38:06 UTC
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Post by John Williamson
Don't know but the  lot run jointly who run  stuff like Quest, really
and W
and also ITV X are doing the same. Available to stream now on..., and its
often some time later it finds itself on the broadcast systems.
 Brian
Yes, I have noticed that. Spashy adverts to "Watch our new series
starting on Tuesday" with a note on screen that all episodes are now
available for streaming on line.
The BBC usually don't say when the programme is broadcast, just that it
is on iPlayer.
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Max Demian
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