Classic FM on Freesat?

[Geo]

Could someone confirm that Classic FM is on Freesat (Channel 721 according to
google)?
Searching the Classic FM site, there is no mention of Freesat - only Sky.
I know they can not afford freeview.

[Geoff Berrow]

Post by Geo
Could someone confirm that Classic FM is on Freesat (Channel 721 according to
google)?
Searching the Classic FM site, there is no mention of Freesat - only Sky.
I know they can not afford freeview.

Well the info button says they are there but there is no signal.

[tony sayer]

Post by Geoff Berrow

Post by Geo
Could someone confirm that Classic FM is on Freesat (Channel 721 according to
google)?
Searching the Classic FM site, there is no mention of Freesat - only Sky.
I know they can not afford freeview.

Well the info button says they are there but there is no signal.

It is on there, I was using it the other nite but this was by a digital
satellite receiver and not a Sky box...


Its on 12523 Vertical polarisation 27,500 etc

Its almost at the bottom of this list..

http://www.lyngsat.com/28east.html

[Geoff Berrow]

Post by tony sayer

Post by Geoff Berrow
Well the info button says they are there but there is no signal.

It is on there, I was using it the other nite but this was by a digital
satellite receiver and not a Sky box...

I have a Panasonic Freesat TV. It's listed, but there is no signal.

[Paul Martin]

Post by Geoff Berrow

Post by tony sayer

Post by Geoff Berrow
Well the info button says they are there but there is no signal.

It is on there, I was using it the other nite but this was by a digital
satellite receiver and not a Sky box...

I have a Panasonic Freesat TV. It's listed, but there is no signal.

Your dish is probably misaligned. Do you get Planet Rock (same
transponder) or Euronews (adjacent transponder)?

The problem is that the Eurobird "F" transponders don't use
interleaved frequencies like the Astra transponders and lower band
Eurobird transponders are, so you need very good discrimination
between horizontal and vertical polarization.

[Geoff Berrow]

Post by Paul Martin

Post by Geoff Berrow
I have a Panasonic Freesat TV. It's listed, but there is no signal.

Your dish is probably misaligned. Do you get Planet Rock (same
transponder) or Euronews (adjacent transponder)?

No signal on Planet Rock either. The dish was already installed on
the house when we bought it. Spose I'll have to get an engineer to
have a look at it.

[Brian Gaff]

I personally think they should be on Freeview. How come those mind gnumbing
commercial clones can sit there taking up bandwidth when a national station
is not there?
Its interesting to note that many other countries have Classic FM now. Is
it a franchise or is it a big multinational operation. Certainly the jingles
are the same.

Brian
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Post by Geo
Could someone confirm that Classic FM is on Freesat (Channel 721 according to
google)?
Searching the Classic FM site, there is no mention of Freesat - only Sky.
I know they can not afford freeview.
--
Geo

[m]

Post by Geo
Could someone confirm that Classic FM is on Freesat (Channel 721 according to
google)?
Searching the Classic FM site, there is no mention of Freesat - only Sky.
I know they can not afford freeview.

Working fine on Sky (0106) and of course on Freesat (721) because
Freesat is just the same as Sky with a different EPG.
Freeview is teh expensive option as it has to be distributed all over
the country to all the transmitters and space on the multiplexes is limited.

Mike

[Michael Chare]

Post by Geo
Could someone confirm that Classic FM is on Freesat (Channel 721 according to
google)?
Searching the Classic FM site, there is no mention of Freesat - only Sky.
I know they can not afford freeview.

Yes it is there and I can listen to it. The programme schedule appears on
the Freesat EPG

[Graham.]

Post by Geo
Could someone confirm that Classic FM is on Freesat (Channel 721 according to
google)?
Searching the Classic FM site, there is no mention of Freesat - only Sky.
I know they can not afford freeview.

Are Freesat receivers so crippled that they are unable to be tuned to streams that aren't on the EPG?

[Dave Liquorice]

Post by Graham.

Post by Geo
Searching the Classic FM site, there is no mention of Freesat -

only

Post by Graham.

Post by Geo
Sky. I know they can not afford freeview.

Are Freesat receivers so crippled that they are unable to be tuned to
streams that aren't on the EPG?

Well as the freesat site lists Classic FM one would assume it's in
the freesat EPG:

http://freesat.co.uk/index.php?page=whatson.Genre&genre_id=10

The Classic FM website is the one that isn't listing it as available
on Freesat. How much does Murdoch own of Classic FM, directly or
indirectly?

[Graham.]

Post by Dave Liquorice

Post by Graham.

Post by Geo
Searching the Classic FM site, there is no mention of Freesat -

only

Post by Graham.

Post by Geo
Sky. I know they can not afford freeview.

Are Freesat receivers so crippled that they are unable to be tuned to
streams that aren't on the EPG?

Well as the freesat site lists Classic FM one would assume it's in
http://freesat.co.uk/index.php?page=whatson.Genre&genre_id=10
The Classic FM website is the one that isn't listing it as available
on Freesat. How much does Murdoch own of Classic FM, directly or
indirectly?

I wonder if the OP realises that SKY and Freesat use the same Astra 2
program content albeit with different EPGs?

[Geo]

Post by Graham.
I wonder if the OP realises that SKY and Freesat use the same Astra 2
program content albeit with different EPGs?

Almost - but it is difficult to know how up-to-date is the information on web
pages. For all I know CFM could have pulled out of Freesat since they have NO
mention of it on their web page about methods to receive their broadcasts.

We have previously been using an FM cable feed from Virgin Media but this has
been turned off and our current off-air reception is not brilliant. I could
install an outside dipole but if FM is to disappear this may not be worthwhile.
As CFM is a (SWMBO) requirement, Freesat may now be an alternative.

Thanks (all) for the confirmation that they do exist.

[Geoff Berrow]

Post by Geo
We have previously been using an FM cable feed from Virgin Media but this has
been turned off and our current off-air reception is not brilliant. I could
install an outside dipole but if FM is to disappear this may not be worthwhile.
As CFM is a (SWMBO) requirement, Freesat may now be an alternative.
Thanks (all) for the confirmation that they do exist.

Maybe I have an old dish or something, but I can't get it on Freesat,
more's the pity.

[tony sayer]

Post by Geoff Berrow

Post by Geo
We have previously been using an FM cable feed from Virgin Media but this has
been turned off and our current off-air reception is not brilliant. I could
install an outside dipole but if FM is to disappear this may not be worthwhile.
As CFM is a (SWMBO) requirement, Freesat may now be an alternative.
Thanks (all) for the confirmation that they do exist.

Maybe I have an old dish or something, but I can't get it on Freesat,
more's the pity.

Question.. Can you get any free to air TV progs like BBC 1, 2,3, and 4?.

Any ITV programmes at all?. If so then you should be able to receive CFM
you might need to re scan your box...

[Geoff Berrow]

Post by tony sayer

Post by Geoff Berrow
Maybe I have an old dish or something, but I can't get it on Freesat,
more's the pity.

Question.. Can you get any free to air TV progs like BBC 1, 2,3, and 4?.
Any ITV programmes at all?.

Yes, all those.

Post by tony sayer
If so then you should be able to receive CFM
you might need to re scan your box...

Done that. made no difference.

[tony sayer]

Post by Geoff Berrow

Post by tony sayer

Post by Geoff Berrow
Maybe I have an old dish or something, but I can't get it on Freesat,
more's the pity.

Question.. Can you get any free to air TV progs like BBC 1, 2,3, and 4?.
Any ITV programmes at all?.

Yes, all those.

Post by tony sayer
If so then you should be able to receive CFM
you might need to re scan your box...

Done that. made no difference.

As suggested elsewhere on this tread you'll have to add in the required
channel and polarisation to your box..

[Geoff Berrow]

Post by tony sayer

Post by Geoff Berrow
Done that. made no difference.

As suggested elsewhere on this tread you'll have to add in the required
channel and polarisation to your box..

Tried that too. :(

I get some extra TV channels on Horizontal but nothing at all on
Vertical

[John Legon]

Post by Geoff Berrow

Post by tony sayer
As suggested elsewhere on this tread you'll have to add in the required
channel and polarisation to your box..

Tried that too. :(
I get some extra TV channels on Horizontal but nothing at all on
Vertical

If you're getting a good signal on 12523 H but nothing on 12523 V, then
I suspect that the skew of your LNB needs adjusting. For Eurobird 1,
which carries Classic FM, this is significantly different to the skew
for the Astra 2 satellites, being about 21 degrees clockwise (facing the
dish) as compared to about 14 degrees. A bit of tweaking may be all
that's needed...

[John Legon]

Post by Geoff Berrow

Post by Geo
We have previously been using an FM cable feed from Virgin Media but this has
been turned off and our current off-air reception is not brilliant. I could
install an outside dipole but if FM is to disappear this may not be worthwhile.
As CFM is a (SWMBO) requirement, Freesat may now be an alternative.
Thanks (all) for the confirmation that they do exist.

Maybe I have an old dish or something, but I can't get it on Freesat,
more's the pity.

Don't know whether this will help, but Classic FM was missing from the
channel list on my FTA satellite receiver. The reason, as I've just
discovered, is that the corresponding transponder wasn't included in the
pre-programmed configuration. This is one of a few instances where the
same frequency - 12,523 MHz - is used for both polarities, and my box
only identified 12,523 H. Adding 12,523 V to the transponder list has
brought in an extra 12 TV and 19 radio stations, including CFM...

[tony sayer]

Post by Geo

Post by Graham.
I wonder if the OP realises that SKY and Freesat use the same Astra 2
program content albeit with different EPGs?

Almost - but it is difficult to know how up-to-date is the information on web
pages. For all I know CFM could have pulled out of Freesat since they have NO
mention of it on their web page about methods to receive their broadcasts.

It is definitely there, I was using it last night!..

Post by Geo
We have previously been using an FM cable feed from Virgin Media but this has
been turned off and our current off-air reception is not brilliant. I could
install an outside dipole but if FM is to disappear this may not be worthwhile.

Do it!, FM will be around for a long time to come yet. They, CFM, know
that digital Dab will take years and years to replace FM if it ever does
in its present olde worlde form..

Post by Geo
As CFM is a (SWMBO) requirement, Freesat may now be an alternative.
Thanks (all) for the confirmation that they do exist.

[Zero Tolerance]

Post by Graham.
I wonder if the OP realises that SKY and Freesat use the same Astra 2
program content albeit with different EPGs?

However, when you say that, I wonder if you realise that no matter
what is broadcast on the satellite itself, the selection of channels
which have chosen to pay to be listed on the Freesat EPG is very much
smaller than the channels which find it worth their while to be listed
on Sky boxes.

--

[Graham.]

Post by Zero Tolerance

Post by Graham.
I wonder if the OP realises that SKY and Freesat use the same Astra 2
program content albeit with different EPGs?

However, when you say that, I wonder if you realise that no matter
what is broadcast on the satellite itself, the selection of channels
which have chosen to pay to be listed on the Freesat EPG is very much
smaller than the channels which find it worth their while to be listed
on Sky boxes.

Indeed I do, and I also know that a Sky box used for FTA purposes
can be tuned to pretty much anything independently of the EPG, very useful
for Channel 5 now all the "blue house" FTV cards have been zapped, as the FTA
version does not appear in SkyGuide.
What I don't know is if all Freesat boxes can do this. I am pretty sure that some
early ones couldn't, and they were given that functionality later in an OTA update.

[Mark Carver]

Post by Graham.
Indeed I do, and I also know that a Sky box used for FTA purposes
can be tuned to pretty much anything independently of the EPG, very useful
for Channel 5 now all the "blue house" FTV cards have been zapped, as the FTA
version does not appear in SkyGuide.

Annoyingly the FTA version of C5 is the 'Region 2' stream, that is post code
mapped to viewing cards for the southern 2/3rds of England, plus Wales, but
excluding London.

My FTV card has now been zapped, but fortunately the postcode mapping features
have not, so for me (North Hampshire) C5 is visible. If I remove the card, and
re-boot the box, then C5 and EPG allocation 105 disappear.

I'm not sure who's being cynical here, but with the other four main channels
removing the card causes the box to default to London for BBC and C4, and
Central for ITV on EPG 101-104. There's no reason why Sky/C5 couldn't arrange
the same for C5 to default to the FTA Region 2 in the absence of an FTV card,
but then of course they'd be no reason to pay Sky 20 quid for a new one ;-)

[Zero Tolerance]

On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 16:53:24 +0000, Mark Carver

Post by Mark Carver
I'm not sure who's being cynical here, but with the other four main channels
removing the card causes the box to default to London for BBC and C4, and
Central for ITV on EPG 101-104. There's no reason why Sky/C5 couldn't arrange
the same for C5 to default to the FTA Region 2 in the absence of an FTV card,
but then of course they'd be no reason to pay Sky 20 quid for a new one ;-)

If C5 want their FTA regions listed by default in 'no card' boxes then
they can request that from Sky. The reason that they don't, possibly,
is because C5 themselves, rather than Sky, want people to have FTV
cards so that they can get Fiver and FiveUSA...

--

[tony sayer]

Post by Dave Liquorice

Post by Graham.

Post by Geo
Searching the Classic FM site, there is no mention of Freesat -

only

Post by Graham.

Post by Geo
Sky. I know they can not afford freeview.

Are Freesat receivers so crippled that they are unable to be tuned to
streams that aren't on the EPG?

Well as the freesat site lists Classic FM one would assume it's in
http://freesat.co.uk/index.php?page=whatson.Genre&genre_id=10
The Classic FM website is the one that isn't listing it as available
on Freesat. How much does Murdoch own of Classic FM, directly or
indirectly?

Its wholly owned by Global radio he might have a share holding in that
possibly..


Its the one commercial station thats considered a "cash cow" ..

[m]

Post by Graham.

Post by Geo
Could someone confirm that Classic FM is on Freesat (Channel 721 according to
google)?
Searching the Classic FM site, there is no mention of Freesat - only Sky.
I know they can not afford freeview.

Are Freesat receivers so crippled that they are unable to be tuned to streams that aren't on the EPG?

Don't know about all makes of receiver but my Humax HD one has a
"non-freesat" tune option that lists every single channel with the
option to ignore scrambled ones.
Also individual transponders can be scanned for available channels.
I am not sure (haven't played with it yet) but I recall it has DiseQ
switching as well so in theory it could receive other satellites.
Overall a great receiver.
A few odd things happen in the non-freesat mode but all the channel
information still shows.
Also of course the Humax HD can be connected to broadband and then
accesses BBC iPlayer direct onto your tele.

Mike

[tony sayer]

In article <***@tiscali.co.uk>, m <***@tiscali.co.uk>
scribeth thus

Post by Graham.

Post by Graham.

Post by Geo
Could someone confirm that Classic FM is on Freesat (Channel 721 according to
google)?
Searching the Classic FM site, there is no mention of Freesat - only Sky.
I know they can not afford freeview.

Are Freesat receivers so crippled that they are unable to be tuned to streams

that aren't on the EPG?
Don't know about all makes of receiver but my Humax HD one has a
"non-freesat" tune option that lists every single channel with the
option to ignore scrambled ones.
Also individual transponders can be scanned for available channels.
I am not sure (haven't played with it yet) but I recall it has DiseQ
switching as well so in theory it could receive other satellites.
Overall a great receiver.
A few odd things happen in the non-freesat mode but all the channel
information still shows.
Also of course the Humax HD can be connected to broadband and then
accesses BBC iPlayer direct onto your tele.

Now that useful;) I expect our Dreambox could do that once I work out -
-how- its done;)..

Post by Graham.
Mike

[Graham.]

Post by tony sayer
scribeth thus

Post by Graham.

Post by Graham.

Post by Geo
Could someone confirm that Classic FM is on Freesat (Channel 721 according to
google)?
Searching the Classic FM site, there is no mention of Freesat - only Sky.
I know they can not afford freeview.

Are Freesat receivers so crippled that they are unable to be tuned to streams

that aren't on the EPG?
Don't know about all makes of receiver but my Humax HD one has a
"non-freesat" tune option that lists every single channel with the
option to ignore scrambled ones.
Also individual transponders can be scanned for available channels.
I am not sure (haven't played with it yet) but I recall it has DiseQ
switching as well so in theory it could receive other satellites.
Overall a great receiver.
A few odd things happen in the non-freesat mode but all the channel
information still shows.
Also of course the Humax HD can be connected to broadband and then
accesses BBC iPlayer direct onto your tele.

Now that useful;) I expect our Dreambox could do that once I work out -
-how- its done;)..

My lads Wii has recently acquired the ability to view player, but for some reason
lost the ability to play Youtube content.
For a while it was possible if you pointed its browser at http://youtube.com/xl
but even this doesn't work now. Anyone know why?

[tony sayer]

o.uk...

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Post by tony sayer

Post by Graham.

Post by Graham.

Post by Geo
Could someone confirm that Classic FM is on Freesat (Channel 721 according

to

Post by tony sayer

Post by Graham.

Post by Graham.

Post by Geo
google)?
Searching the Classic FM site, there is no mention of Freesat - only Sky.
I know they can not afford freeview.

Are Freesat receivers so crippled that they are unable to be tuned to

streams

Post by tony sayer

Post by Graham.
that aren't on the EPG?
Don't know about all makes of receiver but my Humax HD one has a
"non-freesat" tune option that lists every single channel with the
option to ignore scrambled ones.
Also individual transponders can be scanned for available channels.
I am not sure (haven't played with it yet) but I recall it has DiseQ
switching as well so in theory it could receive other satellites.
Overall a great receiver.
A few odd things happen in the non-freesat mode but all the channel
information still shows.
Also of course the Humax HD can be connected to broadband and then
accesses BBC iPlayer direct onto your tele.

Now that useful;) I expect our Dreambox could do that once I work out -
-how- its done;)..

My lads Wii has recently acquired the ability to view player, but for some reason

Meant to mention that the daughter fixed that up, but its a bit of a
PITA to use , well the remote gubbins /pointer thingy;!..

lost the ability to play Youtube content.
For a while it was possible if you pointed its browser at http://youtube.com/xl
but even this doesn't work now. Anyone know why?